Make a Splash! How to Build Your Personal Brand
A discussion with ‘The Cool Branding Guy’ Roy Smoothe
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Author, Publisher, Speaker, and Branding Genius Mr. Roy Smoothe is affectionately known as ‘The Cool Branding Guy’ He is the renowned founder of ‘Smoothe Mixx’ the World’s #1 Motivation & Music Label with over 30 million Streams over Amazon / iTunes & Spotify. His cool, unique and distinctive approach combines fashion, music, branding and cutting-edge audio production to create world-class projects and high-impact initiatives that improve the way people live, learn, work and do business.
To brand out of the crowd you need to be different and that’s what Roy does best… In his own style, he teaches how to attract attention in your market place, how to create a compelling brand story, and how to engage your target audience with a fresh, funky and entertaining approach in order to keep you ahead of your competitors… Numerous high profile, successful individuals, businesses and organizations worldwide recognize the value of his Cool Branding Concepts which he has used to help them increase brand awareness, generate new business leads & increase in sales.
If you are searching for a Cool Branding mentor, advisor, and strategist, Roy is that man.
Talking Points
- Show up strong, show up well and enhance the perception you have created online
- Build a perception and a story of you and your company on social media
- Branding Process – Attention , Attraction, Engagement, results!
- Know your company’s jewels and figure out how to you make them sparkle in the marketplace
Connect with Roy Smoothe
Website
https://www.roysmoothe.com/
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John DeBevoise:Greetings everyone, and welcome to another serving of Bizness Soup Talk Radio. If it’s in business, it’s Bizness Soup. I’m your host, John DeBevoise. The difference between a brand and branding. We’re going to be talking about that, as well as what is internal, external between the brand and branding. Well, branding by definition, and the brand itself is coming right up with our good friend, Roy Smoothe, the smoothest brander around, put the Smoothe Mixx right here on Bizness Soup, where business guns for business. Roy, welcome to this serving of Bizness Soup.
Roy Smoothe:Glad to be here.
John DeBevoise:It’s great to have you. We keep running around … Well, you keep running around multiple continents, I stay in my little padded studio here, but it’s a pleasure to have you here. And I hope you’re enjoying your presence here on Bizness Soup, as we’re going to serve up what the meaning of branding is.
Roy Smoothe:Sounds good. I’m looking forward to this conversation. It’s been long overdue.
John DeBevoise:Now Roy, you travel around the world communicating with businesses. You go into a business and they say, “I want a brand.” Well, you and I come at branding a little bit differently. I’m a cowboy. We have a different form of branding, but we both leave a mark. What does it mean when somebody wants to brand themselves or brand a business?
Roy Smoothe:That’s a very, very good question. It kind of depends on your role in the business. The way I see it is if you’re the CEO, or you’re kind of the spokesman, or the lead sales person for a business, you need to create personality within that business that you can use in brand. If you’re unable to do that, you need to create a personality for the business that you can share with your customers.
John DeBevoise:So just showing up doesn’t mean that you’re going to get the sale anymore. Walk in the room, here I am. Give me your money. It sounds like you’re creating an image that is going to project beyond the time that you’re in the room.
Roy Smoothe:Yeah. And the smart people will create that image before they get in the room. And when I say that, they’ve already built up the image, the main thing, which I believe is the perception, the story, the timeline, they’ve built it in the background on social media, online, so when they get in the room, more than likely the people in the room would have done their research and got an idea about the individual, or the company, or the product beforehand. So it’s the groundwork that’s very important in terms of preparing your brand, and preparing for the opportunity. When you show up, that’s a very important thing to me, that’s one of the biggest things that I talk about in branding, that you have to show up strong, show up well. You’ve got to enhance the perception you’ve already created online. And that’s not just in terms of image, but your personality, the way you carry yourself, the way you show up with people, the way you relate to them and, as you said, it’s the way they feel when you’ve left the room.
John DeBevoise:Jeff Bezos said it famously, and others have as well, is that a brand is what people say about you when you’re not in the room. How do you get that image before you ever get in the room?
Roy Smoothe:The one I’ve heard is your brand is what people say about you when you leave the room. My belief is the first thing that’s really important is what people say about you when you enter the room. And with that, there’s two things. One, as I said before, it’s the story, the perception you’ve created in the background on social media, and then the perception you create when you walk through the door. And the biggest thing I’ve found, apart from your style, the way you dress, the way you walk, is to come into the room with a smile. You’re never fully branded without a smile.
John DeBevoise:In my own personal association with that, there’s two of many things my mother taught me, the Southern bell that she was, and one was that after 12 years of cotillion, she said, “You are going to thank me one day for teaching you how to dance.” Thank you, Mom. And the other one is when you walk into the room, own it.
Roy Smoothe:Exactly. That’s great.
John DeBevoise:You go into the room, you make a presence. And as you said, you walk in with a smile. You don’t walk in sheepishly, and those around the Roy Smoothe that I know, know he is a very stylish man. You know Roy when he walks in the room. You have a brand.
Roy Smoothe:Yeah, I appreciate that. And thanks for that kind of … Well, it’s an encouragement to me as well. You know I kind of like fashion, but as I say again, that’s kind of the initial perception when I come in the room, my style, and I like that saying that you quoted just then about actually owning the room. I think to make it easier for an individual who don’t have that confidence to own an actual room is to own your space. And that’s the presence you create, the way you feel when you enter that room.
John DeBevoise:That’s confidence.
Roy Smoothe:When you say it’s confidence, people either think they’ve got it, or they haven’t. What I say is you walk into confidence. It’s something you don’t feel you can do, or something that you become that you don’t feel you can become. So the way you own a room, you have to go out and own confidence. And you can only do that by stepping out, and stepping into confidence, as such. And it’s the same with branding. When you go into a room, or when you’re going to launch a product, or a new business, you have to step into the space, say, “This is me, my product, my business, or my brand, and I’m going to own that space.”
John DeBevoise:If I’m my listener, and I’m listening to Roy Smoothe here, and you’re talking about branding, and I say, “You know what? I need that. I pick up the phone, I call you, and I say, “Roy, I want you to leave a mark. I heard you with John, the cowboy, talking about branding, and I’d like to avoid the sizzling brand that he has, and I want you to help me brand my business.” How do you create that mark that leaves an impression when the person calls and says, “Roy, put a mark on me.”
Roy Smoothe:Very good question. I come at it pretty much differently from most branders or agencies, et cetera, because the first thing I want to know is not the brand that individual or business creates, but I want to know more about the business, the person, their story, their dreams, their goals, their visions. It’s only then that I can start working on helping them cultivate that brand image perception that they want to create. So knowing the individual, knowing their audience, knowing the effect they want to have on that audience, like you say, how they want to own that space, is key. It’s the first thing you do, the first thing you learn, before you even talk about going through the branding strategy, campaigns, et cetera. So I like to know the individual first before I know what kind of brand that I can create with that individual.
John DeBevoise:Well, I’m going to use one of my other companies that are successful companies as an example, and you don’t know who it is, but it’s a sparkling flavored water company, and it’s entered into the water space. And as we both know, there is a sea or an ocean of water out there. How does somebody that is trying to break into an overpopulated market, how do they identify themselves and separate themselves through a brand when there are so many other labels out there selling the same product?
Roy Smoothe:Quite simply, they need to make a big splash.
John DeBevoise:This wasn’t even set up for that line.
Roy Smoothe:It is something I believe in. As you know, John, you always see me walking along the beach in the mornings, the videos or the pictures that I put on social media. So I am in my own space, kind of studying the waves, the water, the sky, the sun, the sea, the sand, and seeing what kind of effect it has on people, on their emotions, et cetera. And the greatest feeling I see when I’m walking down a beach is when people run down the sand and they jump into the sea, and they make a big splash, yeah. They have a great feeling, and it excites the people who are watching that as well. So going back to your question about this water brand and how do they enter that space that they’ve gone into is quite simply, they have to come up with a campaign to make a big splash.
John DeBevoise:So in the water space, to make this splash, you have to come up with something that hasn’t been done, or do you just redefine, or take that wheel and put a new spoke in it, and make a different, or make a move faster or smoother.
Roy Smoothe:It’s a mix of all the above, but the key thing is the style in which you do it, the perception that you create with the splash you make. So that’s kind of my immediate answer. Obviously I do something which I call Cool BrandStorming with clients where I’ll spend a whole day going through the whole brand creation, from the concept, the design, the goals, the visions, the audience, et cetera, and I create, I call it a map or a blueprint, and a scoreboard where you can look at all the individual elements, pull them together, and work out how they will impact the market that you’re actually entering, or you’re trying to grow, or the brand that you are trying to enhance within your world, your space. So going back to what you said, the overall objective is to make a big splash, but to do that you’ve got to accumulate all the little droplets and bring them together before you can make that big splash.
John DeBevoise:And that’s where you come in is that you look from the outside to the inside, and look at my business, and this example has been water, and you see where are all the little droplets that are around me, and how do you bring them together to make a big splash before I ever walk into the room with my product and my brand.
Roy Smoothe:Yeah, 100%. And being fair, I think the water space is a relatively easy space to make a splash in. I know that’s a bit of a [crosstalk 00:10:44], but I believe it is. Interestingly, my son, Joseph, he’s 24, he’s just launched a new CBD water brand. And from the outset, when he was designing the brand, the can, it’s in a can actually, when he is designing the logos, the design of the can, the campaigns, et cetera, I told him the same thing, make a splash when you enter this market. Make it the most stylish brand in the market. Make it something that when people see it, they immediately perceive it to be something that they’re interested in. One of the key things I teach in branding is you need to get people’s attention. Once you get their attention, if what you do is attractive, I call that the attraction, then you’ve got the engagement.
Once you’ve got the engagement, you can tell them the story, which in turn leads to the opportunity to have them as a client, then buy your product, whatever it is, but it’s a process. Attention, attraction, engagement. Those are the key things. And as you said, with this water brand, bringing those elements to the table through a process of BrandStorming, which is really masterminding focused on branding, I think we’re able to do it and do it very quickly. And I’ve done that from experience, John, a number of times. I have a skill of obviously finding out the person, the business, et cetera, but beginning and finding out what are the jewels that they have that they can bring to the marketplace, and how can they bring those jewels and present them to the marketplace that they sparkle, make an impact, and draw the clients, the customers, the consumers in to make a purchase, to engage, et cetera.
John DeBevoise:There are two different markets out there, and you mention making a splash in the marketplace, and you have business to business, and then you have business to consumer. This splash that seems to be so popular is this put the camera up over your head, and you walk around talking to everybody, trying to get their attention, making a splash. Personally, I call this the Yo Bro presentation. It doesn’t work for me. It’s very prolific. Is that a B2C? It’s certainly doesn’t work for me as a B2B type of atmosphere. How do you set up in your branding the B2B versus the B2C?
Roy Smoothe:Perception is everything. The style in which you carry out that process of filming yourself, your products, whatever, and presenting it to the consumer, the client, et cetera, is very key. And I agree with what you said. There’s a proliferation of people doing this kind of Yo Bro presentation everywhere online. But the truth of the matter is that anybody who deals with me, they know I will tell them don’t go down that road, even though it’s a dumb thing. My strapline, so to speak, is brand out from the crowd. If everybody’s doing it, you find a different way to do it, and you need to do it in a way that makes an impact.
John DeBevoise:So you look at what is the impact. How do you differentiate the story between B2B and B2C? Are there two different brands? Is a one brand that molds over to the other? How do you separate those?
Roy Smoothe:There’s no separation because whichever one you’re working with, dealing with, et cetera, you’re communicating with people. If you can get that person’s attention, and you or your brand becomes attractive to them, you’re going to get the engagement. So to me, it doesn’t make a difference. It’s how you present yourself, the perception you create, the story you tell, the way you communicate, whether it’s person to person or business to business, it’s the same. You have to do it effectively. And from my stance, I believe you’ve got to do it with style, with, I would say, sophistication, cool factor, professionalism, entertainment, fun, and it’s all based on relationship, and the emotion, and the attraction, and that kind of … I call it the loyalty factor that you can build by bringing something to that person or company that they can buy into. So to me, both markets are the same when it comes to branding.
John DeBevoise:All right. So you create this image, and I could be presenting it to the B2B in one type of serving, as I like to say on Bizness Soup, and then depending upon the product I’m trying to sell, the same brand or image can be presented B2C on the other side.
Roy Smoothe:Provided you do it with style, John.
John DeBevoise:Absolutely. Undefined, unrestricted, and undeniable. You’ll find that on Roy Smoothe, with an E, on his website there. I want to talk about your Smoothe Mixx. What is the Smoothe Mixx, and how does that work in the business?
Roy Smoothe:The Smoothe Mixx. It’s something I’ve been doing for several years now, and in a nutshell, what I do is I take presentations, speeches, interviews, anything with a spoken word, and I mix it with cool music. I don’t just mix it, but I actually weave the spoken messages into the music to make it sound like a song track you would hear on the radio. So that is the essence of Smoothe Mixx. Been doing that a number of years, and it is really, really taking off.
John DeBevoise:Well, I can see that. You’ve got over 30 million streams on different platforms there, so yeah. You got a few more zeros on your stream lists than I do. So how does that work for me as a business owner? You stream my words with some Bon Jovi, and hopefully not AC/DC, more like George Strait in my world. How does that work for me? Is it establishing a brand? Is it a compliment to my brand?
Roy Smoothe:A bit of all the above. Initially, it will get you attention in probably a market that you’ve not actually ventured into before. It will get you attention of audiences that you’ve probably not reach out before, or who have been interested in particularly what you’re doing. Music is one of the best vehicles for reaching out to people, and creating emotion, get intention, creating a story, creating a feeling, creating that buy in factor, so to speak. So from a business point of view, it’s unusual route to go to get people’s attention. But what you’ll find is when you see car commercials, or whatever commercials on TV, or even commercials you hear on the radio, there’s always music behind it, John.
John DeBevoise:Yes.
Roy Smoothe:It’s there for a reason. For instance, this interview that we’re doing now, it’s just a straight audio, me and you speaking. If you imagine that I’ve taken this, and then weave it with the kind of music that you’d listen to, you’d be able to listen to this interview multiple times. I’ve just been listening to some podcasts this morning actually, with a friend of mine, Kyle Wilson, and a guy called Darren Harvey, who’s near San Diego area, and a great podcast. It’s a couple of hours. I listened to it once, but I wouldn’t necessarily venture to go and listen to it right the way through in a hurry.
If it was something with music behind it, I could listen to it multiple times because I’d be playing it in the background while I’m driving, while I’m out walking, while I’m in the gym, while I’m taking a stroll down the beach, because I’ve just got that nice groove that I can get into, but subliminally I’m taking onboard the information. And that’s the way it works with the Smoothe Mixx. It’s a great tool to drive a message home, whether it’s motivational, inspirational, or business knowledge, even technical information. I’ve worked with some of the top sports people in the UK, and created a content with technical information about certain sports, and mixed it with music, and they’ve used it to help them improve their skills within that particular sport.
John DeBevoise:Interesting.
Roy Smoothe:Things happened, and yeah, it’s brilliant. It’s fantastic.
John DeBevoise:I could get you to mix this interview that we are doing with some music so I can get people to listen to me while working out in the gym.
Roy Smoothe:Exactly.
John DeBevoise:And give them more motivation because you’ve mixed it with music that would fit. And I agree that when you mix in some music with the subject matter, it will make you want to listen more often.
Roy Smoothe:100%.
John DeBevoise:Play some more John DeBevoise. That just rolls right off the tongue.
Roy Smoothe:Well John, I mean the story goes is I created the concept of this mood mix probably 14 years ago, and what had happened was, long story short, I went to a Les Brown event to study becoming a motivational speaker, and I wanted to speak to the youth audience basically. And I didn’t feel I was that good a speaker, so I thought you know what? I’ll just put a bit of music behind it so it hides some of the mistakes in my speech, et cetera, be able to edit in, and my son was seven at that time. And I played the several tracks in the car, and even at seven, he could say to me, “Dad, can you play track number four, where you talk about this particular subject, or track number two, where you’re talking about this story.” And I just thought wow, this is amazing. It’s actually having an impact, and reaching somebody that I hadn’t intended it for, it was just that he was listening to it in the car, and I just thought, this is a powerful tool for teaching and inspiring people. And that’s how it started.
At that particular time, unfortunately when my son was almost eight, my wife, his mom passed away, and I’d just really got into Smoothe Mixx at that time. But the great thing that came out of that story, John, was I’ve actually brought him up on Smoothe Mixx as a coaching tool for the last 12 years. He’s 24 now. Actually, he still listens to it now. And funny enough, last night we were out talking, and he says, “Look, Dad. Can we do this together?” Which is an amazing story after 12 years.
John DeBevoise:Good for you.
Roy Smoothe:The thing is I’ve seen the impact it’s had on his life as developing his maturity, his mindset, his entrepreneurial thinking, his spiritual beliefs. All those things have developed from the content that I’ve put into the music over the years. I didn’t really realize, but I have a massive millennial audience who are listening to my mixes. And the funny thing is a lot of the content is from the more mature, the older individual, but the millennials are living in it because it’s got the music they like behind it. So people like mixes with Jim Rome, Denis Waitley, Brian Tracy, Les Brown, Zig Ziglar, T. D. Jakes, a lot of the top speakers, the millennials are buying into their content because they’re enjoying it for the music.
John DeBevoise:Interesting. And that’s not easy to get into when you could be their parent or grandparent, to get them to listen to you.
Roy Smoothe:Exactly. There’s a skill behind it, John. It’s a production technique I’ve developed over the years. So if you saw my studio, you’d see five screens, and four computers, and using all kinds of different software, but the skill is how you bring all that technology together to make something that people can grove to. But while they’re getting down to this stuff, they’re actually learning from it. They’re actually developing from it. They’re actually enhancing their knowledge, their wisdom, their mindset, their thinking, their motivation, their inspiration. And that is the essence behind the Smoothe Mixx.
John DeBevoise:We’re talking with Royce Smoothe. Roy Smoothe is in the business of helping you, me, business brand themselves, getting the message out by crafting a voice of your brand that outlines a clear mission. Also, a vision, and will set the values of your business that you can stand apart in a very crowded field. What does your brand say about you? Well, if you’d like more information about Roy Smoothe and his Smoothe Mixx, and what he can bring to the table for your business, the one source for all business is bizsoup.com. That’s B–I–Z–S–O–U–P.com. You’ll find this podcast, its transcriptions, and links to Roy all available at BizSoup. Roy, thanks for being a part of this serving of Bizness Soup.
Roy Smoothe:Been a pleasure.
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